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-====== ChaosMeeting 2026/05 ======
+====== ChaosMeeting 2026/06 ======
-^ Date                               | 13/04/2026                                          |
+^ Date                               | 11/05/2026                                          |
 ^ Time                               | 20:00                                               |
-^ Location                           | [[:chaosstuff|ChaosStuff]] / [[services:nextcloud]] |
+^ Location                           | [[:chaosstuff|ChaosStuff]]                          |
-^ Administrative Council Attendees:  | [[user:virii]], [[user:orimpe]], [[user:xbr]]       |
+^ Administrative Council Attendees:  | [[user:xbr]], [[user:virii]], [[user:orimpe]]       |
 ^ Minutes Recording                  | [[user:xbr]]                                        |
 ===== Agenda =====
   * Meshnet
-    * Website
+    * Planning: setting up the first DEA nodes
-    * Logo
+    * Dutch Meshcore - Switch to SF7
-    * Branding - how to frame Meshnet
+    * Meshnet.lu website
-    * Handheld nodes - did they arrive?
+    * Meshnet.lu stickers
-    * Node config: regio Settings
+    * New Antennas
+    * Update Freifunk
+  * Admin (DDS)
+    * LBR/RCSL/RBE + BCEE: Update information, what is what?
+    * FVDE?
+    * Update Phone number (who should it (not) call?)
+  * NOC
+    * Updates from the NOC (regarding ChaosStuff Network)
+    * Problems due to (lack of) MQTT in ChaosStuff
+    * .lu domains
+    * kallithea to forgejo migration
 ===== Minutes =====
 ==== Meshnet ====
-=== Website ===
-[[user:xbr]] got a skeleton website based on Hugo and the "Blowfish" theme, it's up on [[https://projects.c3l.lu/|projects.c3l.lu (Kallithea)]] under [[https://projects.c3l.lu/freifunk/meshnet/www|freifunk/meshnet/www]].
+=== First DEA Nodes ===
+[[user:orimpe]] presented a slide deck, showing the locations of nodes we'll install:
+  * POE Node: Useldeng, Marnach
+  * Solar Node: Eschduerf, Derenbach, Roullingen, Napoleonsgaart
+[[user:orimpe]] then opened lux.meshmapper.net to present the state of the network in Luxembourg, showcasing the new nodes.
+[[user:orimpe]] also showed a spreadsheet with the possible locations, their reach and their rating, that is, how far they reach and thus how useful they are.
+=== Dutch Meshcore - Switch to SF7 ===
+[[user:orimpe]] also presented another document: **[[https://web.archive.org/web/20260508210618/https://assets.woodwar.com/meshcore_sf7_switch_instructions.pdf|Dutch Meshcore - Switch to SF7]]**, lowering the "spreading factor", getting better performance, but breaking compatibility with the rest of the network. They have done this as the network has gotten too busy.
+=== Meshnet.lu website ===
+[[user:xbr]] will migrate the repository from kallithea to forgejo, and [[user:orimpe]] and [[user:virii]] will start writing some content.
+=== Meshnet.lu stickers ===
+[[user:virii]] got various Meshnet.lu stickers and brought them to the ChaosStuff.
+=== New Antennas ===
+[[user:virii]] has bought some new antennas for testing from various manufacturers:
+  * [[https://www.reichelt.de/de/de/shop/produkt/lora_wan_antenne_868_mhz_3_dbi_n-buchse-317058|Allnet 3dBi]
+  * [[https://www.reichelt.de/de/de/shop/produkt/lora_wan_antenne_868_mhz_5_dbi_n-buchse-317057|Allnet 5dBi]]
+  * [[https://www.reichelt.com/de/en/shop/product/antenne_lora_helium_iot_n-female-365626|Poynting 4.5dBi]]
+  * [[https://www.wlan-shop24.de/interline-horizon-868-lora-rundstrahlantenne-8dbi-wetterfest|Interline 8dBi]]
+=== Freifunk Update ===
+[[user:xbr]]: It works again!
+[[user:virii]] and [[user:orimpe]] tested it in the ChaosStuff, IPv4 works but limited speed due to encryption, and IPv6 does not work. This is due to the lack of routing rules and handing out of IPv6 addressing.
+Freifunk could become more event-oriented, but it might have to be a different model, as meshing (wireless) would not necessairly make it ideal.\\
+If we bought cheap used enterprise equipment and loaned it out for a donation, optionally even having some people help and set it up, that could be cool, but a completely different model and require more labour and equipmnt.
+Alternatively, Freifunk could host services. Sadly, hosting it in Germany and calling it "freifunk.lu" is kinda crappy. Finding hosting in Luxembourg is very difficult and expensive, there are no VPSes, we'd need to get something sponsored.
+==== Admin ====
+=== LBR & BCEE ===
+We updated the information in the LBR:
+  * RCS: Modification portant uniquement sur les mandataires
+  * RBE: Modification des bénéficiaires effectifs
+For the BCEE account, we need to change the acceses, there might be a PDF form, but we have to go in-person. [[user:virii]] will take a look and ask.
+=== FVDE ===
-The ''[[https://projects.c3l.lu/freifunk/meshnet/www/files/d3a1e5f71f7c87f0aaca25c837a08a613fc3c70d/README.md|README.md]]'' has documentation regarding how things work, how you can add new pages, ... . The website does not have a lot of text/content yet.
+FVDE still exists on paper, but the AGA has closed it.
-Ideally, we should focus on 1 language to write things in, and then have translation done somehow (manual machine translation?), and the translations must also never be out of date.
+We took a look at the LBR form, it seems possible to close it, but a minimum of information is required (closure date, etc.).
-Feel free to start adding content/text to it. There are some skeleton pages for Meshtastic and Meshcore, but we need a common page for Meshnet that explains what the project is about, and most importantly, **what differentiates the subprojects, and how they belong to Meshnet**, which brings us to the following topic.
+[[user:virii]]: [[user:fantawams]] should've done it, but was not able to. I'll take a look at it
-=== Logo ===
+=== Update phone number ===
-[[user:orimpe]] made an initial draft logo, we discussed it in [[cm-2026-03|a previous ChaosMeeting (2026/03)]], and [[user:xbr]] reworked it into a vector logo.
+We have to update the targets of the phone, to [[user:virii]] and [[user:xbr]].
-During this ChaosMeeting we discussed the current logo, and tinkered with multiple variations (e.g. vertical text as [[https://projects.c3l.lu/freifunk/meshnet/artwork/raw/49bbb05fdb2894bd83a6afe39a5f869e6d3824db/verticalLogo-fontasshape.svg|an example Sticker]])
+[[user:virii]] has sent the email.
-They are available on [[https://projects.c3l.lu/|projects.c3l.lu (Kallithea)]] under [[https://projects.c3l.lu/freifunk/meshnet/artwork|freifunk/meshnet/artwork]].
+When someone calls the C3L number, it rings the other people, with the C3L number as the origin.
-=== Branding - how to frame Meshnet ===
+==== NOC ====
-**Meshnet was a great branding idea** to regroup all of our mesh network efforts.
+=== Updates from the NOC (regarding ChaosStuff Network) ===
+[[user:virii]]: we sent the Archer C7 in retirement, we replaced it with TP-Link Omada, with a controller and APs, IPv6 works now.
-While it may make sense to us, it needs to make sense to people we talk to about this: people that have never heard of **Meshnet, Meshcore, Meshtastic, Freifunk**. Imagine how confused they may be:
+The FritzBox has been removed, we only use the CZ.NIC Omada, the photo club shares the network with us now.
-> "What's what? How do they relate to one another, and why should I care? Is **Mesh**tastic like **Mesh**net, they both start with **Mesh**, unlike Freifunk?"
-We did some brainstorming on "Why did we make Meshnet? / Why are we interested in (projects)?": what came out of it was that our main interest comes from a **resiliency** perspective.
+[[user:virii]] has removed all broken and non-working devices from the NOC rack: old backup system, roonadan, the other Pi that [[user:virii]] had, etc.
-We do trust and use networks every day, be it cellular, coax, fiber, the PSTN, the Internet, but we also know how co-dependent they have become on one another, and how one unrelated software failure can cascade into a whole ISP / Telco being down.
+We do want to install a new system(s) (e.g. Pi) in the NOC rack for MQTT, Grafana, and other internal systems.
-It's worth noting that outside, there are other perspectives on this, f.i. preppers find interest in it for their purposes, many radio amateurs like the far-reaching network aspect of it, as it uses the same technology, but develops a solution differently, and some critical infrastructure providers may want to still be able to communicate and organize responses, even when other networks are down.
+=== Problems due to (lack of) MQTT in ChaosStuff ===
-This solves "how to brand Meshnet" but not "how to introduce the subprojects and their differences".
+We need MQTT in the network, for lights (Zigbee2MQTT), the red button still uses MQTT, but that could be changed. MQTT is not necessiarly a bad choice, but we must re-configure it. Possibly the scripts and older config could be gotten from the roonadan SD card.
-=== Handheld nodes - did they arrive? ===
+The DECT power switches and the alarm (open/closed) run over HTTP calls (GET/POST).
-Yes they did, [[user:orimpe]] and [[user:virii]] are working on it.
+=== .lu domains ===
-We're tending more towards Meshcore nowadays, so some questions have been asked upstream regarding that.
+[[user:xbr]] will move freifunk.lu from VO to a new my.lu account.
-We probably should approach this like we used to with Freifunk: have a bunch of (models of) nodes in-stock, and we can thus do workshops and sell them.
+=== kallithea to forgejo migration ===
-=== Region scope ===
+We need to migrate repos to forgejo, [[user:xbr]] will start migrating some important repos.
-^ Region             ^ Explanation                                              ^
-| europe             | Base region, the whole of Europa                         |
-| luxembourg         | Luxembourg (country)                                     |
-| saarlorlux         | Saarland, Luxembourg, Lorraine, Parts of Rheinland-Pfalz |
-| <del>de-west</del> | <del>West Germany</del> ?                                |