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--- lb:organization:chaosmeetings:2026:cm-2026-05 [2026/03/22 19:48] – created orimpe
+++ lb:organization:chaosmeetings:2026:cm-2026-05 [2026/04/17 12:24] (current) – add links for logo xbr
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-====== ChaosMeeting 2026/04 ======
+====== ChaosMeeting 2026/05 ======
 ^ Date                               | 13/04/2026                                          |
 ^ Time                               | 20:00                                               |
 ^ Location                           | [[:chaosstuff|ChaosStuff]] / [[services:nextcloud]] |
-^ Administrative Council Attendees:  | [[user:virii]], [[user:orimpe]]       |
+^ Administrative Council Attendees:  | [[user:virii]], [[user:orimpe]], [[user:xbr]]       |
-^ Minutes Recording                  | [[user:orimpe]]                       |
+^ Minutes Recording                  | [[user:xbr]]                                        |
 ===== Agenda =====
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   * Meshnet
     * Website
-    * Handheld nodes ??? did they arrive yet?
+    * Logo
-    * Branding / how to promote/talk about Meshnet
+    * Branding - how to frame Meshnet
+    * Handheld nodes - did they arrive?
     * Node config: regio Settings
 ===== Minutes =====
+==== Meshnet ====
+=== Website ===
+[[user:xbr]] got a skeleton website based on Hugo and the "Blowfish" theme, it's up on [[https://projects.c3l.lu/|projects.c3l.lu (Kallithea)]] under [[https://projects.c3l.lu/freifunk/meshnet/www|freifunk/meshnet/www]].
+The ''[[https://projects.c3l.lu/freifunk/meshnet/www/files/d3a1e5f71f7c87f0aaca25c837a08a613fc3c70d/README.md|README.md]]'' has documentation regarding how things work, how you can add new pages, ... . The website does not have a lot of text/content yet.
+Ideally, we should focus on 1 language to write things in, and then have translation done somehow (manual machine translation?), and the translations must also never be out of date.
+Feel free to start adding content/text to it. There are some skeleton pages for Meshtastic and Meshcore, but we need a common page for Meshnet that explains what the project is about, and most importantly, **what differentiates the subprojects, and how they belong to Meshnet**, which brings us to the following topic.
+=== Logo ===
+[[user:orimpe]] made an initial draft logo, we discussed it in [[cm-2026-03|a previous ChaosMeeting (2026/03)]], and [[user:xbr]] reworked it into a vector logo.
+During this ChaosMeeting we discussed the current logo, and tinkered with multiple variations (e.g. vertical text as [[https://projects.c3l.lu/freifunk/meshnet/artwork/raw/49bbb05fdb2894bd83a6afe39a5f869e6d3824db/verticalLogo-fontasshape.svg|an example Sticker]])
+They are available on [[https://projects.c3l.lu/|projects.c3l.lu (Kallithea)]] under [[https://projects.c3l.lu/freifunk/meshnet/artwork|freifunk/meshnet/artwork]].
+=== Branding - how to frame Meshnet ===
+**Meshnet was a great branding idea** to regroup all of our mesh network efforts.
+While it may make sense to us, it needs to make sense to people we talk to about this: people that have never heard of **Meshnet, Meshcore, Meshtastic, Freifunk**. Imagine how confused they may be:
+> "What's what? How do they relate to one another, and why should I care? Is **Mesh**tastic like **Mesh**net, they both start with **Mesh**, unlike Freifunk?"
+We did some brainstorming on "Why did we make Meshnet? / Why are we interested in (projects)?": what came out of it was that our main interest comes from a **resiliency** perspective.
+We do trust and use networks every day, be it cellular, coax, fiber, the PSTN, the Internet, but we also know how co-dependent they have become on one another, and how one unrelated software failure can cascade into a whole ISP / Telco being down.
+It's worth noting that outside, there are other perspectives on this, f.i. preppers find interest in it for their purposes, many radio amateurs like the far-reaching network aspect of it, as it uses the same technology, but develops a solution differently, and some critical infrastructure providers may want to still be able to communicate and organize responses, even when other networks are down.
+This solves "how to brand Meshnet" but not "how to introduce the subprojects and their differences".
+=== Handheld nodes - did they arrive? ===
+Yes they did, [[user:orimpe]] and [[user:virii]] are working on it.
+We're tending more towards Meshcore nowadays, so some questions have been asked upstream regarding that.
+We probably should approach this like we used to with Freifunk: have a bunch of (models of) nodes in-stock, and we can thus do workshops and sell them.
+=== Region scope ===
+^ Region             ^ Explanation                                              ^
+| europe             | Base region, the whole of Europa                         |
+| luxembourg         | Luxembourg (country)                                     |
+| saarlorlux         | Saarland, Luxembourg, Lorraine, Parts of Rheinland-Pfalz |
+| <del>de-west</del> | <del>West Germany</del> ?                                |